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Hobby Lobby Today “It's time to get
behind the businesses and corporations that truly stand for family and
religious values in America! Don't let the radical Left agenda dictate how America
must believe and act! There is a support day today (Jan 5th) at all Hobby Lobby
stores. If you can, shop there to support the Green family's stance on Christian
values!!”
Here is the audacious, belligerent response that that post elicited from some clown named chopperboy:
Support Right-winged
Taliban! This isn't religious freedom. This is Hobby
Lobby telling their employees they must follow their specific brand of religion
and belief system. If all their employees really do not believe in using these
drugs, then Hobby Lobby shouldn't have any issue with offering them as nobody
would ever use them anyhow. Religious Freedom as they are claiming is about
CHOICE. Not about somebody cramming their beliefs down your throat.
My retort to chopperboy:
Unfair
Comparison Unfair comparison ChopSuey - Christianity =/= Islamic Terrorism!
How dare you compare the vicious, murderous
Religious-Militaristic-Political Islam-inspired terrorist group with
God-fearing, Judeo-Christian principled and values oriented organizations? Are
you out of your mind? You liberals amaze me, calling evil good and good evil. You
and your ilk are contributing to the ultimate destruction of America... Thank
you very much...
Chopperboy responds:
Not at all.. gayjaye...religious freedom exists for ALL,
not just the owners of Hobby Lobby. The funny thing is Hobby Lobby is a
corporation, so they are using a corporation to shove their religious views
down the throats of their employees. If a Jewish person applied for a job at
HL, do you think they would be hired because the owners of HL don't agree with
their religious viewpoint?
Oh..and you are a liar
also..Like Christians didn't
go around killing Muslims for hundreds of years. You are a right-winged POS. And
I am NOT even a liberal you moron!
My counter to chopperboy:
Don't Let the Facts
Get in the Way of Your Argument ChopLiver - You are good at name calling, but not so good at
getting your facts straight. Besides your statement, “religious freedom exists
for ALL….” everything else you write is false.
If keeping their stores closed on Sundays out
of religious convictions and not greed, conducting their business and operation
based on Judeo-Christian values, including treating their employees fairly is
"shoving (Hobby Lobby ownership’s) religious views down the throats of
their employees” then they are ‘guilty’ as accused! Hobby Lobby does not
discriminate against Jews or anyone else in hiring or treatment...
Christians killing Muslims throughout history
has been inconsequential compared to persecution and massive murders of
Christians in the name of allah, mohammed and Islam! Maybe centuries ago a few
‘Christians’ may have killed a few Muslims. However, they are not doing that
today to any degree whatsoever. However, all over the world Islam-inspired
terrorists are killing Christian and other ‘infidels’ as I write this. You make
an absurd, unfair comparison. But what do facts or history matter to you.
Here’s what another poster, OldKL50, added to the discussion:
I don't think that
Hobby Lobby, as an employer, is telling it's employees what to do ... or what to believe.
I think the core issue is does Hobby Lobby, as
an employer, have to provide 100% coverage for abortifacient (emergency
contraception). Evidently, the employer already covers basic birth control
(pills, etc), but doesn't think it should cover the other types of birth
control. Note, not providing coverage for such a medication/device doesn't mean
that any Hobby Lobby employee cannot USE such a measure, it just won't be
covered by the employer's health insurance. So, you can't really claim they are
forcing their views onto their employees, rather, they just want a limit on
what they 'pay for' for their employees .
However, they still don't qualify as a
religious employer the same way that a church or temple would. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/atty-hobby-lobby-offer-morning-pill-18078798#.UOhPGHdkj6M
" An attorney for Hobby Lobby Stores said
Thursday that the arts and crafts chain plans to defy a federal mandate
requiring it to offer employees health coverage that includes access to the
morning-after pill, despite risking potential fines of up to $1.3 million per
day.
Hobby Lobby and religious book-seller Mardel
Inc., which are owned by the same conservative Christian family, are suing to
block part of the federal health care law that requires employee health-care
plans to provide insurance coverage for the morning-after pill and similar
emergency contraception pills. ..."
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